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National Centre for Gender & Cultural Diversity - Volume 2/Issue 1, 2001

We are thrilled that Sandra Yates has accepted our invitation to speak as special guest at this year's Presentation Dinner for Outstanding Women in Non-traditional Areas of Work and Study. Sandra recently chatted with us about her interests, passions, and the pathways she's chosen to get to the place she's at now.

A Typical Day at the Office

Our interview with Sandra was squeezed in from 10:30 to 11:00 at the start of a working week. Sandra's day had already begun with an early morning management meeting at Saatchi & Saatchi, a multinational advertising agency based in the Rocks, Sydney, and where Sandra is currently appointed as non-executive Chairperson. "After the interview, I'm rushing off to speak with people at the Bell Shakespeare Company in Sydney who are looking for some marketing advice," she explained. "I'm then rushing home at lunchtime to see my husband because he's off to the UK for a couple of weeks, so I'll go home and have lunch with him before he goes. This afternoon, I'm having a meeting with a group of senior business people who provide specialist coaching to executives. I've also got an industry committee meeting later this evening."

Needless to say, a typical day at the office for Sandra is spread across a number of different roles and geographical locations. "I flit from flower to flower," she says, "but my physical base is here at Saatchi & Saatchi".

On one level, keeping the different aspects of Sandra's professional and personal life together "is really just a question of juggling a diary". On another level, however, fulfilling such day-to-day commitments obviously requires a great deal of energy, versatility, and passion and it's these elements that make Sandra the sort of person she is.

Reinventing Conversations

Sandra describes herself professionally as an independent company director with a broad portfolio of interests across the arts, community, education, and business, with particular expertise in marketing and communication.

Part of her role at Saatchi and Saatchi, for instance, is to advise and support senior management using her business knowledge and professional contacts for the benefit of the corporation when it is appropriate to do so. ln addition, Sandra is Chair of the TAFE board in NSW, "the world's largest provider of vocational training and education." She is also Chair of the Sydney Writer’s Festival and on the board of Musica Viva. And she is Director of the Demeter Group Pty Ltd, a consulting practice that provides strategic advice to management on publishing, marketing, and communication.

Feeling energised is essential to Sandra. "What people seem to think is hugely busy seems to me to be normal and natural," she says. "l have no idea what I'd do if I retired. I'd be like a bee in a bottle! I really need and enjoy the stimulation of having lots of interesting things to do." Perhaps another way of saying this is that Sandra is always in top gear. "Yes, I think that's true" she exclaims. "I know my brothers certainly think I should just have a lie down. I'm certainly the overachiever in the family. Everyone else appears more relaxed than me."

But Sandra also characterises her professional style as an innate ability to "take one hat off and put another one on, and do it quickly." An example: she has most recently joined the board of the Toronga Foundation, and for the first time in her life finds herself puzzling over endangered species. While this is a terrific thing to be doing, Sandra adds that "it bears absolutely no relationship to anything else I'm currently engaged with." Switching off one thing and on to another, and being totally immersed in the tasks at hand, is therefore another key element in Sandra's approach.

This may have something to do with Sandra's background in communication, in particular, her deep appreciation of conversations as dynamic and potent business tools. In a paper entitled, 'Reinventing Conversation', Sandra explains:



 
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